Apparently a fifth of teachers back caning
7/10/08 18:56
7/10/08 18:55
My little trollette are very well behaved otherwise I feed them to the goats
7/10/08 18:41
also i'd say aswell we had respect for our elders and wouldn't dare speak to them the way i hear kids talking now i don't know how many times i'd been on the bus and it would be full an old person gets on and not what young person gets up my dad said if he did that when he was a kid he'd have got the belt and when he got the cane at school he'd know he'd get it again at home for being in trouble at school he learnt that quickly when he got home and told my grandad the teacher had given him the cane didn't get the sympthy he expected
7/10/08 18:36
yeah taser them gotta move wit the times
7/10/08 18:36
i say bring it back lol i'm joking!!!!!!
but i do think something needs doing kids are getting out of control and you can't blame all the parents as we have no control over them anymore take my brother hes 13 constantly in trouble well as you can't hit your children anymore when they are naughty so my mum trys takin things off him like his mobile phone or computer etc as a punishment well my brother hit my mum when she did this so she called the police and they said well you cant take his stuff off him thats his property she was gobsmacked when me and my sisters were younger and naughty we got a smack and sent to bed i honestly say if my mum had done this with my brother he'd have more respect for her and wouldn't think he could walk all over her shes now going to take him to anger management all i say is i hope it works coz if not he'll be in prison in a few years!!!!!
7/10/08 18:22
Millie i like it tasar
My dh says he'd like to have the kids wired up to something and give them a shock if they're misbehaving, even tho he works in a good school where no probs really! You know, like that big brother task And lallybroch i agree with u, i too behaved at school bcause i respected my parents and didnt want to disappoint them, and i was raised to respect figures of authority. I do think that to some extent if children are disciplined at home they will behave in school, as they know boundaries and ground rules, but parents today dont seem to care as much or want to discipline and give into their kids too easily, hence bad behaviour at school, not through their own fault necessarily but just beacuse no-one told them how they should behave or what is 'wrong' behaviour. My dh and cousin are both teacher and often say one of the main probs is the parents dont care if their child is in trouble or back the child up make excuses for them. When i was at school if i was kept behind or anything my mum would want to know what i had done, not shouting odds at teacher. Part of the prob is the parents have no respect for the teachers authority either. My cousin was off for a day, and a supply teacher took the lesson (who was a previous teacher at that school, then retired) and one kid misbehaved, so he wrote in his planner and put down for a detention, the next day the mum came in shouting at my cousin what right does a supply teacher have to do this?! Unbelievable. And this was a grammar school.
Anyway, gone off on one, sorry! I dont think the cane will help, but teachers need help to regain respect and authority in the classroom and this is just a cry for help i think. I believe it is down to parents to reinforce respect and authority for and in teachers. When ds goes to school he will be told how he is to behave and do as the teacher says, and if he gets in trouble with the teacher, he gets in trouble with us too. Whats so hard about that for parents?! I just feel sorry for all the nice well behaved kids who are losing out because of a few undisciplined ones. When i was at school i'd have glady hit some of my classmates with the cane if i thought it'd make them behave
7/10/08 18:21
Standing in the corner used to do wonders for us at school. We had another teacher who used to make us stand on a chair in the middle of the room for the duration of the lesson if we were bad, then make us write notes that we missed in break/lunch times. Humiliation and freedom taken away... worked very very very well.
Cane is not the answer, I can see where they are coming from and tbh I am glad I can't afford to go to college and finish the bloody access course.
7/10/08 18:16
My cousin says the very same thing Toppie lol
He says the issue isn't the children it's the parents.
7/10/08 18:15
I'd love to cane some of my parents
7/10/08 18:14
no SB34 I am not saying that in every case it is down to non discipline at home, but in a lot of cases it is ,just ask any teacher and they will say that some parents are worse then their children. I beleive that good manners and behavior start at home
7/10/08 18:08
I wish we had the cane, Maybe i wouldnt be such a dumbass now.
7/10/08 18:04
Are you saying Lallybroch that if children are badly behaved then they must not be getting any disipline in the home ??? I am sorry but I don't think that is always the case.
7/10/08 12:22
verbal screaming was also common you would just get drowned out by the teacher, they would always call you by your surname it was a bit like drill sergeant.....
7/10/08 12:20
When I was at primary school it was a ruler across the palm of your hand, or the back of your lower leg, standing in the corner facing the wall with your nose touching the wall! It wasn't unusual to duck a flying wooden blackboard cleaner coming across the room, flying books. I once got the bible chucked at me..hit me on the head! In secondary our Headmaster wore the whole black flowing cape and mortar board and a whistle round his neck everything was regualted by whistles. eg lining up we were fecking terrified of him he used to go this explosive puce colour if riled!
7/10/08 12:12
When I was at school in the 1970's they still had corporal punishment (not the cane - usually they used a plimsole or ruler) and it didn't affect the really bad kids - they just got "the plimmy" most days. If it was used on someone who wasn't a "regular" then it did usually work! I, of course, was a good girl....... only got a slapped leg once! Don't think its worth bringing back - teachers need to be able to have some power to discipline the kids without their parents coming in ranting and undermining them! In my experience the bad kids' parents usually think "my child is never naughty"!
7/10/08 09:32
in a 50 minute lesson i think 20 minutes were spent with the teachewrs sorting out the people who were messing about/arguing back/throwing chairs across the room. its absolutely disgusting that a student can tghrow a chair at a teacher and only spend 1 day in the isolation room.
7/10/08 09:30
Tarred and feathered and sent to an ugly island far far away... that's the parents, then maybe we'd have a chance of saving the kids.
7/10/08 09:28
I would not be happy hitting a child, I do not know any teachers that woul be TBH. I would like to see what context the question was asked actually.
99% of the vile kids I have taught have had even viler parents.
Maybe they should be caned instead.....
7/10/08 09:22
Im sure some kids would see it as some kind of badge of honour tbh.
7/10/08 09:19
It wouldnt work unless they could get all the parents to 100% support it and take some responsibility for their childs behaviour at home as well.
Thats never going to happen.
can't see it ever coming back and hope it never does
but if it did no doubt the children that did get the cane parent's would then come up to the school and thump the teacher