Formula milk no longer available in hospitals.
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31/8/08 08:57
*** style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">i don’t necessarily blindly believe large corporations either, but what are we saying here? that formula is bad for babies? generations of people have been raised on it – god, my uncle was fed carnation milk as a baby (80 years ago) and he managed for a fair few years. not that i’m suggesting babies should be given carnation milk!***> *** style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">as for the non-ethical treatment of cows: if you try hard enough there is something cruel about everything, surely? i don’t fancy a vegan diet i’m afraid! maybe some would argue cruelty to vegetables....***> *** style="margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt">i’m not trying to be difficult; i just feel that we really exaggerate the pros and cons in this argument. maybe we have too much time on our hands? i imagine people trying to bring up their children in a war zone don’t beat themselves up about their parenting decisions.***> -
30/8/08 23:23
There was a documentary I missed the other week about what would peoples reaction be if we had a calf feeding off our breast or even pumped breast milk to give to orhpan calves. But it seems to be okay doing it the other way round.
Not my opinion but it really gave me food for thought.
Maybe its my age but I am very cynical of big corporates telling us ff is fine, obviously they would, wouldn't they.
I have said it on other forums, I cannot understand (not judge just can't understand)anyone who would nat want to even try to give their newborn the milk which was created for them. But each to their own.
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30/8/08 23:20
thia is why i dont like milk http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=98
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30/8/08 23:01
Lily hun, just so you know formula and stuff, well not all of them as some are special diet ones, they are made from cows milk... We drink cows milk everyday, you could call me a cow
but i swear im not lol... Im pretty much human and my mother didnt breastfeed me, i dont think she held me until i was a day or 2 old, my mum was so out of it!! -
30/8/08 22:37
what i said was not ment to upset anyone, i just said my opinion and i stick with it, sorry but i firmly believe our milk is made for our child cows milk is made for the cow they gave birth to and formula is for people who dont get on with breast feeding or health reasons. sorry to upset people now is not a time in our lifes for stress and to be wound up, sorry girls xxxx
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30/8/08 19:17
hi ladies.personally i would do anything for my baby like other people so i wouldn't mind taking in formula milk and bottles if needed.i couldn't bf my first dd she just wouldnt latch on. my nipples became very sore and very painful.my 2nd dd didn't latch on either she was smaller than my first.i got really upset i couldn't breastfeed them.this time im gonna try again to breastfeed but if baby doesn't latch on again ill have to use formula.the comment about desprates was a bit ott and has offended a lot of people.
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30/8/08 18:44
For those of you who have had a baby already, im sure you know about the after pains.. Just wanted to say to all those that are wanting to breastfeed, do not let the afterpain put you off, doesnt last long, but usually happens for the first week or so whilst breastfeeding as its your uterus shrinking back to its normal size, bit like contractions on an empty belly!!!
Once again, good luck to you all xXx
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30/8/08 18:43
Lilly, you say that you feel women should want to/intend to bf. Does this mean that if a person DOESN'T want to, they are wrong/selfish/unnatural? This is the implication I get, but I have been accused of being over-sensitive when it comes to this debate!
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30/8/08 18:41
I dont think i have been judgemental about FF babies.. I dont have a problem with it.. I just think that poeple should be prepared to take in thier own milk etc just incase they cant breastfeed.. With my ds i breastfed foolishly even though he screamed his head off, then found out he was lactose intolerant and i cant breastfeed him so he had formula, special one..
With dd again i took formula with me even though my intentions were to breastfeed.. Luckily dd was ok healthwise and continued to breastfeed even though for the first one or two days, got no milk.. I just think that mums should be prepared to take it in with them.. Keep a receipt just incase you dont need it... Or keep it for them little emergencies so long as its in date...
I dont think that Lily meant her post the way everyone is taking it, i also thought that the person that swore at her was being very very rude.. Surely there is no need for name calling? For those of you that desperately tried to breastfeed but couldnt, its obviously not oyur fault, sometimes life is like that, but you will have something to fall back on if you cant breastfeed, you will have your ready made milk...
Take my advice and keep at least 2 readymade milks and one bottle even.. Regardless of whether the baby needs it or not, in the long run the bottle can come in handy for feeding baby water (my son hated beakers and wanted a bottle instead)
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30/8/08 18:32
I think it was how u said it lilly, as others hav esaid some ppl really want to bf but cant i know my mate was one of them and she was really upset she couldnt do it so yes that tin milk is for desperates or whatever u said is gonna hurt some folk, whatever ppl do or however they choose to feed their child is up to them and them alone
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30/8/08 18:30
Last I'm going to say on the subject, or I can see rows starting! As I said earlier, I have no problem whatsoever providing my own bottles for hospital, should I need to. But to agree with what other people have said, about some people being judgemental about ff babies. If you want to bf, fine, but please do not assume that it's bad for mums that choose not to for their babies. My children are both perfectly healthy and both have been bottlefed.
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30/8/08 18:09
i have to say i think you should get some facts before you start saying things about ff babies there are alot of medical conditions that both a mother and a baby can have that meens the mother cant bf or that the baby needs a special formula in order to actually survive so before you start s***ging people off for ff maybe you should just keep your nose out its none of your buisness and why do you care anyway and before i get the well you obviously ff thats why you feel this way no i bf triplets for 6 months and when my son had to go on special ff for a medical condition i really didnt care if the baby gets fed it really isnt a issue
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30/8/08 17:53
i think you people have took it the wrong way what i said i ment like for people who cant breast feed but i feel all mothers should want/intend to. take offence or dont but im stating my opinion
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30/8/08 17:35
2 years ago i had my DD, i fully intended to bottlefeed, and i took in, as was told to in a letter, 6 bottles and a tin of formula.
Once she was born they let me have two or three of the small bottles with teats already on of ready amde formula (even though they said this was not provided), then when i moved up to the ward, they took me to a sterilising room, with every different brand of steriliser going!
And as i was a first tiem mum they showed me how to sterilise and make up 3 feeds and put them in the fridge. I used the same steriliser as i had at home, put my bottles in a little basket and named them as mine and in the firdge they went!
Absolutely no problem at all, and if i hadnt have taken in all my own things because lets say, for examplke they provided everything i wouldnt have had a trained midwife teach me, as a first time mum, how to sterilise properly and make up feeds correctly!
NO problem at all, just ask midwife at next appointment if the hospital you intend to give birth at has sterilising facilities and if you need to bring in your own steriliser etc etc, least then you can prepare yourself.
HTH ladies
oh and i gave birth at Colchester General Hospital
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30/8/08 16:20
In the ideal world i think alot of new mums would like to bf but sometimes things just don't go to plan and to label people is wrong! If you've tried before and had bad experiences then why should you put yourself throught the emotional and phycial pain again! People in this forum are a bit dumb if yopu ask me!
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30/8/08 15:35
my hospital in leicester is really good. they have all the different brands and if you choose to bottle feed or struggle with bf then they will give you formula. i think they supply it to make things easier so everyone isn't messing around sterilising etc...
from the experiences ive had in the hospital when i had my 3 children, establishing bf is really difficult. i myself didnt struggle to much but did find it eventually very painful and gave up. the other women ive met on the wards have needed alot of assitance. bf is not a piece of cake.
just to add - lillysue's mummy, you are such a b***. that was a disgraceful comment you put. you've offended a lot of people. i hope your pleased with yourself. your obviously very narrow minded and are missing the point about bounty, that it tries to be a friendly supportive place.
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30/8/08 15:20
Same as most u kw ur going in for baby u take everything u need, i didnt know they were stopping formula but i usually bf for first 6 weeks, ill get some ready made ones up to take in just incase theres a problem,
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30/8/08 15:07
When i had my first i didnt have a clue they provided nappies, bottles (breastfeed anyway) etc, i agree that the onus should be on the parent aswell, but sum people always want everything done and provided for them. It amazes me the benefits in place for those who need it anyway, from the surestart grant to even getting bus fair paid to appointments!
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30/8/08 14:35
I suppose you can't please everybody & we will all have different opinions on the subject xx
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30/8/08 14:27
Why would you need hospital to supply it anyway ?
My best friend who is due to give birth very soon, recieved a letter from her clinic informing her that hospitals no longer (from 1st sept) will be providing formula milk to healthy babies and mothers. Has anyone else heard about this? I haven't been told yet, maybe because I'm only 12 weeks but apparently it will be a nationwide thing. Is this a ploy to get you to breast feed or is it because they don't want to influence your choice of brand? You can take your own cartons in with permission.