that must be hard hun and the thing with parents at the toddler groups is if your child is naughty they give you funny looks as if your a bad parent dd is a nightmare at the minute but only with me for some reason shes good around other kids i'm sure it will pass when dd hits me or something i tell her no because it hurts then move her away from me and ignore her for abit she hates it also because i can't use naughty step yet if shes really naughty i take her to her room and shut the gate i go downstairs for 5mins to calm down then i go back up and say are you going to be good now and shes says yeah though sometimes shes still naughty when she comes back down so we do it all again untill she realises i hope it gets better for you.

oooohhh just a thought is there anyway you can afford to put her in nursery for a few hours one day a week? it will give you a break and she will learn to play nicely with other kids xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks for all your replies, i've just sat down for the first time all day.

You're suggestions are all great, problem is she's a real nightmare when we're out and i have to watch her even more.....she's being a real bully at the moment, so much so that sometimes i daren't take her to our usual playgroups etc. she bites, hits, pushes, kicks, scratches. not all the time but i do have to watch her. nevermind, as you all say things will get better.......with persistence........

night all

its hard isn't it hun why don't you take her to a toddler group youmight find the more active shes being the more tire she is at night and goes to sleep earlier or take her to feed the ducks and the park and let her walk everywhere just really tire her out i know its hard to have that get up and go when your feeling like crap and tired yourself but atleast you'll get a good nights sleep then and she might even get into having a nap in the day if shes really tired xxxxxxxxxxx

I hear ya!! I have ds who was 2 in September and as soon as he hit 2 the terrible 2's began! It is tough. He is a nightmare getting to sleep, and wakes up during the night if he loses his damn dummy!! (the next one is not getting a dummy!)

I am 10 + 4 and the tiredness is not getting any better I feel bad I have no energy to play with him but he is pretty good at entertaining himself! He seems to have taken up art as he pointed out to me last night when he showed me he had "drawed" on my coffee table in green crayon.....kids eh??!!! Love them!!

Poor u!! i couldnt cope!! at 9wks i was sick as a dog and cudnt do owt!! luckly for me my son whos 16mths goes bed between 8 and half past and makes up at half 8 in the morning! hes always slept throw sine he was 4mth. It will get better thro hun just hang in thereXX sarah 11wks 4days

Try not to let it get to u as I know excatly how ur feeling

I have a DS who's just over 2 & very active,cheeky & demanding & being 9+2 im feeling tired all the time & feeling grotty so its very hard to be on the ball with ur little yins.

One thing I can suggest to u as it helps me is...On really grotty days I take him to Soft Play or to a mates that has kids so then he doesnt need my attention as much as he plays happily & I can sit & chill for an hour, also my parents take him 1 day a week for me & I used to do my housework but I use the time to catch up on sleep, housework I do now is in dribs n drabs

Im looking forward to the 2nd trimester when I have more energy as u do feel a tad guilty when u cant give ur other little yins the attention they deserve.

You are defo not alone hun(((hugs)))

Hi all, hope you are all well.

I'm so tired at the mo it's unbelievable! It is not helped by the fact that my dd (2) has always been a rubbish sleeper, it's a real hard time putting her to bed most nights and she's up a couple of times in the night and wakes anytime after 5, normally 5.30. This, on top of being 9+4 has left me shattered, literally struggling to keep my eyes open during the day and i just want to sleep. This in turn frustrates dd because i can't be as active with her and she's an active little bugger, i don't know how she carries on with the lack of sleep she gets. She won't really play on her own yet so i can't just sit and watch her and get 10 minutes sit down time.

Sorry, just needed a rant, been up for over an hour already now - how am i gonna get through the day???