Need some advice on weaning PLEASE x
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9/10/08 18:11
9/10/08 17:43
*** class="comment">btw if you are weaning before 26 weeks you need to avoid allergenic fruits so bananas, strawberries, kiwis, citrus fruits, tomatoes.
***>9/10/08 09:33
ralb, I answered on your other thread sweetheart.
8/10/08 22:46
rebecca - i have pmed you but forgot to add that ask your gp/paed if you can see the thrive lines. your dd cannot be classed as FTT unless she has crossed the thrive line. HCP's throw this term around too loosely in my opinion. in most cases "FTT" babies have not actually crossed the thrive line they are just very slow to gain weight.
also insist on a referral to a paed nutritionist (not dietician - i have found from my own experiences and talking to a lot of people nutritionists seem to be better than dieticians with this sort of thing)
8/10/08 22:35
OH ralb I really feel for you

This is what makes me so angry. Parents are so woefully under-supported by HCP's and their community, and then it is the parents that bear the brunt of the guilt if something goes wrong.
You should try and translate your guilt into anger at those who have let you down. Proper, easily accessible information shouldn't be so hard to get hold of.
All we get is books saying your baby should be doing x y and z at so many weeks and it puts pressure on parents because they want to be sure that their baby is thriving. They end up not enjoying their baby because they feel their baby must meet the average and if they arent sitting up yet, or sleeping through there must be something wrong.
I hope you get some proper support from here on from your HCP's. It shouldnt be this hard should it?
8/10/08 20:20
apologies for my rant, makes me as bad as them
I blame giving up smoking lolS xx
8/10/08 20:17
Hi easha, how you doing hun. Glad you are happy with your decision to wean early, I think the weaning police believe we are all weaning early to look cool in front of our mates and that we are making rash decsisions without looking into the guidelines. Oh, did I say GUIDELINES not hard and fast rules cemented in stone written in blood. Sorry thought I would also jump on my high horse, you see we all have them, they just might run in different directions. On top of that have you seen the state of the bloody country, I take what this govenment recommends with a pinch of salt (although not till after 12 mths pmsl)
Anyhoo, Easha, can't belive our DIJ babies are now in 4-6 its' flown by. How is Gabriel getting on? Good I hope.
Take care chick
S xx + Oliver 18 (or is it 19) wks god I don't know
4 mths lol stopped doin weeks now moved onto months8/10/08 20:16
Easha - ur dp is absolutely right!! no-one on here knows ur lo, we can only tell you our experiences and the guidelines. Its up to u to make an informed decision and if u thought u were harming ur baby then u wouldnt do it!! I find it very messy feeding my lo but also exciting as he tries new things and pulls funny faces!! good luck x
8/10/08 20:03
Hiya Babaloo. They suspect it's congenital but can't be 100% as he was tube fed aptamil when born as was prem and lost weight and my milk hadn't come in then.
They think I may have a lactose prob that my body not filtering it or something like that as I've never really been able to tolerate milk as a child, bad stomach ache, couldn't really have ceral without being crippled. In my 20's i had to have a colonoscopy and they found ulceration in my small intestine and initially suspected Chrones disease.
Kx
8/10/08 19:48
I would certainly insist on a referral to an expert in your situation. It sounds very difficult and tbh I'm not entirely certain that introduction of solids is the best solution - but I am not an expert on weight gain issues, and that is what you need to help you and your dd.
What I can say is that rice has far fewer calories than milk and is bulkier, so will fill her tummy, causing her to take less milk, so I'm not sure how they expect it to boost her calorific intake? Its a question you might want to put to whoever you see next.
If you PM me I can make a couple of other suggestions.
8/10/08 19:34
Thanks stella - i am just sick of it now TBH - I am fed up with the lack of care! If I am totally honest I would be exclusively BF now if it wasnt for her weight - the HV basically told me if she didnt put on weight at my next visit LO would be classed as failing to thrive and I would have to see a DR - maybe I should have just left her? As it was I started to mix feed and she put on 10oz - now I am regreting that move as she is awful - crying most of the day, I am struggling to settle her at night - usually she slept 6pm till 7am being put in her cot awake with one feed - now she has dropped the feed and screams all evening and has to be rocked to sleep - I am considering trying to get her back to just BF and dealing with the weight issue with Dr's. What do I want a happy baby with weight issues or a healthy weight with a screaming baby???
8/10/08 19:32
easha as i said before you know your baby best and none of us what to hurt our babies, babies are all different and do things at different stages, i was confused and the threads on here didn't help me, but at the end of the day i have taken on board what they have said and i have made a decision to wean at 18 weeks, the goverment are always right!
8/10/08 19:14
kel did he have a congenital or primary intolerance?
8/10/08 19:11
ralb - I really hope it's nothing serious with your LO. In order to make the dr really understand what the problem was my friend demonstrated feeding in front of him as she was sick of being fobbed off and told it was probably just wind. Once he'd seen it for himself they got a refferal pretty quickly. Sometimes I think just telling them how things are doesn't really get the point across enough..

Good luck xxx
8/10/08 19:07
yeah good luck its messy but fun. my baby has just started having dinners and it gets everywhere!!
i make my own purees just chuck loads of veg inthe blender if your babies enything like mine theyll love it!"
8/10/08 19:05
its really hard being a first time mum...! im just so glad iv got my mum and people around me to help me....!!!!!!!
my parnter kinda told me off today cuz i was geting really upset and thought i was harming my baby boy by giving him baby rice.....he read all the threads on Bounty and couldnt believe i was taking advice of strangers (his words not mine).... he firmily told me that im Gabriels mum and i know whats best for him....! and that if i thought i would hurt or harm him i wouldnt of done it in the first place....! he was sooooooooo right x
8/10/08 18:58
No problem, its such a minefield knowing what they can and cant have!! i have to look it up all the time cz i forget! x
8/10/08 18:56
Hia Shel...... thanks huni, and it wasnt strawbarry baby rice i was giving him it was Apple and rasberry, i make sure that anythink i give him has got from 4months upwards on it x x x
8/10/08 18:48
The Collective:
The reason I feel bad about things I have done is because I have had no support what so ever from my local HV team - There are no groups or anything, I managed to bimble along for 16 weeks EBF but LO dropped from the 50th centile to the 9th - surely it would be worse for her if I had kept going like that?
Now trying to do the right thing and give her formula is turning her into a screaming unhappy baby, hence why I have been advised to introduce baby rice and hopefully reduce liquid at the problem time of 5pm to 8pm.
I am not one of these people who have read the recomendations and decided I know best - if fact the opposite I am screaming out for help!
Therefore I would feel only better if I had been able to EBF my dd until she was 6 months but this hasnt happened.
I am glad things are better for you
8/10/08 18:48
Actually The Collective it was me who said I felt guilty. I know breast is best but I felt guilty as my breast milk hurt my baby and to be told the most natural thing in the world has harmed him was soul destroying. I've had great advice from my paediatric team and know the pros and cons and trust them with their advice as they have explaied how it all works re weaning.
To then be told that weaning is going to hurt him too just adds more pressure.
Easha good luck with the weaning, it's a messy business. Jack was weighed today and he has started to gain weight again now he is weaned.
Could I suggest rather than getting into big debates that two separate threads are posted. One pro weaning and one giving the cons and never the twain shall meet. Then rather than arguing people can look at each for the advice/info and decide from there?
Kx













also have you seen this? http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/04April/Pages/Arsenicinbabyrice.aspx