You could be talking about my DS, he starts school in September.  Tried reward chart and naughty step but that doesn't really bother him, what gets through to him is if I confiscate a toy/dressing up outfit for a day after giving him a warning.  He was distraught when he had his sporticus outfit taken off him for answering back!  The other thing is he has to earn the right to watch a DVD or cbebbies and that seem to motivate him too.

Hi - you're not alone with this one!  My ds1 has undergone a recent personality change - I think it has a lot to do with the fact I have given up work to manage the school run which starts in September so he no longer goes to the childminders and also pre-school finished a few weeks ago too.  I think he's bored and is pushing his boundaries in a BIG way.  Hopefully he'll be too knackered come September to be naughty!  He can be nasty to ds2 (19 months) too. 

If you are really concerned that her behaviour is something more than just plain naughty, it might be worth a word with your health visitor, particualarly if is really affecting your family life as a whole.    I think you have to be really consistent with what you will and won't put up with.  We have started taking away his daily dose of Cartoon Network on the TV (he's allowed an hour before bed) which is really, really helping - he loves it!  Maybe you need to find whatever it is that she really values and then take that away when she's misbehaving.  They soon get the message. 

Thanks Angie

I have tried tons of stuff. I tried the naughty step but she will just scream and when i send her to her room she just has a good play so she likes it up there. I do try to take things off her if she is being naughty but she will say "please mummy I promise i wont do it again" so she gets it back and then will do the same thing she got into trouble for before. I think I'm too soft with her really. She walks all over me. She has started hitting me too but I just dont know what to do. I find it so hard as i do suffer with depression and i work full time so i am always tired and i also have a 1 yr old so all this is getting me down. I just wish she would be a good girl. She seems to cry at anything when she doesn't get her own way and never seems to listen to a word i say. Its SSSSOOOOO Frustrating....

and from the picture they look like angels! kids! my 6 year old dd used to be a pain when frustrated as she threw the nearest thing to her whether it was a doll or a plastic chair. I knew when she figured out that she didn't really want to throw her toys when she stopped short of throwing one in a temper but i was lucky in one way-she still can't speak too good so can't make other people think you smack her all day-not that i do. She screams and fights when she gets sent to the naughty step but i have to be firm as i use it for my 4 year old hearing son as well. I wonder if taking away a treat that she likes would work if you followed through with it? have you asked advice from any of the people you might see? Younger children can be sly-my nearly 2 year old is a right monster towards her brother but he won't fight back.

good luck

angie

hi folks!

I have a dd who is 4 (just turned) and she is a nightmare. She never ever listens to me and is always being naughty. We have another dd who is 1 and she is so sly towards her. She bullies her for no reason. I treat both my girls the same and there is no favorites in our house but the difference in our girls is really noticeable. Dd1 has never been good and I am ashamed to take her anywhere incase she "kicks off" but dd2 is brill. It gets to the point where people will refuse to look after her so me and hubby haven't been out together prob for about 3 yrs. Its getting me down as she now growls when i shout at her....Why does she do that? Also i never smack her, only occasionally if she had done something bad which is only usually a tap on the bum, but when we are out and i shout at her she will shout at the top of her voice"please dont smack me mum" why would she do this? I'm really loosing my patience with her as she wants for nothing and we are forever doing activities with her like painting etc but she still wont behave.

I need some advice to tell me where I'm going wrong before i end up screaming....HELP PLEASE.