personalyi  would  be  worried ans would  want  toknowhis  rasons behind being  likethis.

to the op presents dont equal love, just because the babys grandparents havent bought your son anything doesnt mean he doesnt love him, i really dont understand why you are so affected by this man you see to post the same story in every forum especially debates.

I am so sorry to hear your story it is so sad and I hope maybe one day this man will feel so guilty for what he is doing and missing out on his little grandsons life but that is his problem.

I have a story too but mine is quite different my son was the first grandchild my in laws never tried to get invovled and never offered to help me I had a section and was just left to get on with it - my own mum and dad were a godsend and did everything for me whereas my inlaws were more interested in being first to see the baby - they came in to visit me 5 mins before visiting time had ended and went away to see my son who was in SCBU - I was very upset but it was put down to emotions..... then they said my mum and dad were always with me and they felt out of place which was rubbish my mum and dad stay about 10 miles away but my inlaws are 5 mins up the road but never even made an effort to spend any time with him - but my sil had a wee girl 15 months ago and this was the greatest ever my fil bought a cake with congratulations on becoming a grandad - not again but you would have thot it was the first time.  She had him 2 days before my sons 2nd birthday and ruined his party they stayed for 10 mins as they had to get back with her and the baby - she and ex split up as she is a lazxy cow and does nothing and even now with my niece 15 months her ex is buying her and baby a house she has never had to put her hand in her pocket for anything since the day and hour shefound out she was pg and the world revolves around her - they treat my dn so different to my son and hes beginning to notice if we dont go up there they would never see him they dont makie any effort even now he is 3 to see him or spend time with him yet they always take the baby away with them and spend more time with her,  it is very hurtful and me and dh are trying for no2 and I just hope they make more of an effort with our next one cos if they dont then I will just wash my hands off them - my mil buys things for baby constantly and my son gets things from the pound shop - they say they dont show favouritism but they are lying - one of these days I will have it out with them but at the moment I am just biding my time - my sil is bragging about how much her ex is paying for a house and how much she spends in designer clothes for her and dd and it gets to me but my son has love and affection and everytyhing he needs and you will be the same you dont nbeed people like that in your lives and if they dont realise they have a lovely grandson then maybe one day they mite.  We were in a serious accident in August and I was really badly hurt so was Thomas but their sympathy lasted a day or two then it was back to the wean as they say and how she wasnt well etc etc Ihad a party for my dh for his 30th at the end of august and they fell out with us cos of her and didnt speak to us for 2 months but these 2 months were brill.  It was great and no stress but I lost it and emailed my fil and told him they were pathetic and needed to grow up i was so disappointed in both of them but however it was wiped under the carpet as usual but they take her side over everything and I always get the blame so now I dont even spend much time with her or them i just get on with my life and my own wee family - hope you are feeling better soon hun and dont worry we are all going thru same thing,.,...xxx

what a sad story im so sorry you are going through this. i think it would be better for you all if you cut all ties with this man ashe will only dissapoint you again . it is better to do this sooner rather than later so you do not have years of trying to explain to your son why his gd leaves him out. you still have his gm and aunties which is good . so concentrate on your own little family and dont give this man a second thought he is not worth it.

Hi there. i have been in a relationship for 3 years and half, now we have a baby who is 6 months. My boyfriend suffers from schizophrenia but as he is on meds he is ok. Hisd dad has never been close to him to hep him or help me to deal with his son when he has been unwell,etc.. when our son was born my bf's dad told him to do a DNA test as he did not think the baby was his son's and even thought I was taking advantage of him.The DNA test was done and it came positive as my boyfriend being the real daddy or our baby. He expected his dad to "love" our son once the test would come positive, but that hasnt happened. He hasnt seen the baby at all in 6 months, he even does not asks how he is doing, on Boxing day my boyfriend went to visit his dad (On Xmas day he was with me, his mum and sister as his parents are divorced) and before he went there he told me -I wish my dad has some presents for our son too, because he is only a baby and is not guilty of anyhting, if he has  not,, it would hurt me a lot...- And guess what happened,,,yeah, his dad did not give him any presents for our baby at all,,,but today is seeing his daughter and his 2 grandaughters and of course plenty of presents for them as the passed years.

maybe he does not like me,but it does not matter,,our baby is still his grandson,,if he does not want to see me, thats fine,,,but at least he could show some affection for his grandson..... what he is doing is hurting my boyfriend a lot as he expected his dad loving our son and now he sees it is not happening.